Did I just fucking hear them say that one of her tests was to pull 105 lbs simulating an injured soldier out of a tank hatch? This is just insanely stupid because an injured solider is going to be dead weight and by no means weighs 105 lbs plus the weight of their gear. Hey, why don’t we just cut corners and lower the requirements to a child’s ability while we’re at it?
The average weight of a man in the United States is 189 lbs. A soldier’s body armor weighs 30 lbs and their load out is generally around 87 to 127 lbs. Well you might say to just leave the gear behind but you can’t just do that. Try telling your squad leader you left another soldier’s shit behind because you were too weak to carry it. I’m sure they’ll totally understand.
Doesn’t anybody remember the lies they told about Jessica Lynch being a fucking hero when she wasn’t just so they could paint her up like G.I. Jane? She didn’t even fire one round. Female recruits in the Marines can’t even do 3 pull-ups and they’re lowering the standards for what, some false sense of equality?
its my personal opinion that women should not be in combat situations. to me thats a mans job. women can serve the military in other ways. my grandmother was in the womens army corps in WW2 she served her country but she left the combat position to my grandfather as it should be.
I agree. Women in the military should be in supportive roles, not combat.
Women in combat or in jobs requiring some form of force projection and authority or physical requirements, like police or firefighters etc, is a fucking joke. It just screams they have something to prove.
No amount of lib twisting equality mental back flipping bullshit is going to change that. At the very least keep the requirements uniform across the board instead of lowering down the standards. At that point you may as well admit women aint shit and need the special treatment to compete with men. Having some small frame women barely dealing with her shit through equipment load or her fucking period and so on, puts peoples lives at risk.
Would hate to see a women try and drag a full grown ass man out of a burning building a few floors up because MUH DISCRIMINATION MUH EQUALITY
The same goes for different races. All this lowered standards shit because you are black or something, instead of on your merit and grades. Or the FDNY making tests for minorities easier because the harder tests were “too hard” and therefore “too racist”
Get the fuck out of here with your diversity standards.
Women have every right to be in combat roles provided we do what the KSK did and they have to pass all the same tests men do without exception.
LOOK AT ALL THIS RACISM AND SEXISM, FOLKS.
The Canadian Forces has employed women in combat roles since the 1980s. To my knowledge, they are required to pass the same tests that men are. Women in the CF have been deployed overseas, to the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and a good number of other peacekeeping and combat operations. Yet, the Canadian Forces maintain combat effectiveness, often moreso than their American counterparts. Canadian women serving in Afghanistan have been killed, the same as men.
Israel, New Zealand, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, and Ireland all allow women to serve in front-line combat arms roles. A good number of these countries are NATO members. Others have seen recent combat.
Just because you believe women aren’t fit for combat doesn’t make it so. Female bodybuilders exist. Female target shooters exist. Female truck drivers, construction workers, heavy equipment operators, and engineers exist. These are all jobs that require physical strength likely beyond what you sexists are capable of yourselves.
Oh, and before you try to claim that women shouldn’t be in combat roles because of what the enemy would do to them if they were captured, perhaps you should read about what the Iraqi military did to male Coalition POWs during the first and second Gulf Wars.
What Austin said.
Is how the US military integrating women into combat wrong? Yeah. Women in combat should be expected to preform the same exact tasks as men- anything less is going to get men killed, missions abandoned, and shit fucked up.
That doesn’t mean women are incapable of doing the same jobs- far from it. The CF’s been using women for years, and their biggest problem in recruiting right now is obesity. Numerous nations have had women serve in their ranks with distinction, most notably Germany.
Shut the fuck up, sit down, and stop being a racist, sexist asshole and learn a thing or two before running your mouth on shit you don’t know about.
No problem whatsoever with women in combat, they just need to be held to the exact same standards as the men.
It was never the physical strength part that worried me (jesus christ, I’m pretty sure every active duty infantry guy on here knows at least one person in his unit that can’t pass a PT test).
There is no doubt that there are women who are incredibly capable trigger pullers, and there are others who have no place in combat. During my last deployment from 2007-08 in Iraq, we had two women from Civil Affairs attached to us. Prior to this deployment, they had deployed several times with ODAs to Iraq, Afghanistan, Philippines, and Uganda. Needless to say, not only could the keep up with us, but they could shoot too.
There was a flipside to this. Again, on my last deployment, we shared our Joint Security Station with Military Police from our brigade. There were females with them. The women with them were incredibly manipulative using gender/sex to get out of work details, patrols, and guard duty. There was a lot of whining, and male soldiers going out of their to insure that the females were well taken care of and comfortable. Things that are generally not afforded while working in a forward area.
Behavior modification due to gender is what concerns me. Even with the Civil Affairs soldiers and their qualifications, we found ourselves going out of our way to make sure that they were doing ok while on a patrol or raid, something that would have never been done had they been male. Can it be done successfully? Absolutely. Look at the Female Engagement Teams within the Army and the Marines.
With all of that in mind, I don’t think we should be examining the physical strength of women, but rather the psychological evaluation of both genders before integrating women into units that are restricted to males only.
#to be even more fair and honest#there are a lot of males not cut out for infantry either#also all of the sex we have with each other is consensual#there is a lot of dude humping that happens